May 1 2016 1:00pm

Ship Just Got Real in Captain America: Civil War—Time To Decide Your Side (Part 2 of 2)

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Team H&H is having its own Civil War among our bloggers as two of our most die-hard superhero fans, Pen Singleton and Sahara Hoshi, take a side in Captain America: Civil War. Today they're offering up their State of the Ship for each side, but look back on their opening argument to decide your decide, as they detail what their side winning or losing could mean for the ships we've come to love in the Marvel Universe. 

Team Captain America (Pen):

In the opening argument of the #TeamIronMan post, Sahara delves into members of the team and reasons why they are on Tony’s side, including being haunted by past mistakes, much like Tony. #TeamIronMan sees this as a good thing but I see it as another reason to not be on #TeamIronMan. Tony causing the rift amongst the heroes is doing more than just pitting them against one another; he’s also jeopardizing a few of the bromances and romances amongst the teams. Our heroes splitting up when there is an imminent danger to the planet on the horizon (don’t forget Thanos is on his way!) is bad enough but the thought of these relationships falling apart causes me even more distress. Let’s check in on how Civil War may affect a few of the ‘ships I have a vested interest in. Gif via asparkshinesbright

Team Iron Man (Sahara):

So the opposing side has argued that the main case for Bucky and Cap’s team is friendship as well as the fact that Captain America outed HYDRA agents working for S.H.I.E.L.D. in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I don’t watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., so my preface is going to be based solely on the movies. When the people who have trusted Captain America for a long time go against the grain, it says something. Case in point, Natasha a.k.a. Black Widow is firmly against Captain America or at least has been shown on Team Iron Man in all of the trailers. In addition, you have the appearance of Black Panther who is also ruler of Wakanda, the country where vibranium is found. Something about the idea of a super soldier with a shield made out of something as strong or stronger than the adamantium in Wolverine’s claws, clearly doesn’t sit right with people on Team Iron Man. Having restrictions in place is not always a bad thing. Do I agree with going after Bucky for all the crazy stuff he did while completely brainwashed by Hydra? Of course not, but I do see that a case can be made for restricting yet another super soldier, one whose acts have led to the loss and destruction of others, a claim that could be made of both Iron Man AND Bucky, then sometimes a restriction on autonomy in that case has to be given.

But what do you really want to know about? Let’s talk about the ships.

The Opener: Captain America vs. Iron Man: Which Side Are You On?

#TeamCap on Steve and Tony:

The biggest rift is, obviously, between Steve and Tony who, though they have had issues with each other’s methods, have become strong allies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Though it is sad to see them finally coming to the blows that were first hinted at during The Avengers, if I have to choose between Steve’s friendship with Tony and his friendship with Bucky, I’m going to choose Bucky. Steve and Tony have grudgingly become buddies but Steve and Bucky go way back. I’m with #TeamLoyalty aka #TeamCap here and am glad to see that Civil War only strengthens Steve and Bucky’s decades long bromance.

#TeamIronMan on Steve and Tony:

I’m not signed on to this because in my heart it will always be Tony Stark and Pepper Potts, but for the sake of fandom, I can see why there is an argument for this ship. There is a tension that can be sexualized between the two characters where anger leads to lust and lust leads to physicality. I do not however, see the two as a love match. If anything they can of remind me of the Draco-Harry parody made in Rainbow Rowell’s Carry On featuring protagonist-antagonist Simon and Baz.

Team Cap on The Hulk:

The Hulk’s stance feels just as easy to determine. Though he was not necessarily on board with Tony’s reasoning or actions in Age of Ultron, he did ultimately go along with him not once but twice during the movie. Additionally, his guilt over his and Tony’s actions and the collateral damage they caused was the reason for his departure from the team at the end of the film. If I had to guess, I’d put him on #TeamGuilt aka #TeamIronMan. Even so, though, it’s not apparent how the Science Bros (Tony and Bruce) bromance will be affected moving forward. Though Bruce might choose #TeamIronMan, its clear he has serious issues with Tony’s methods. Being on Tony’s side, though, should help in his budding romance with Natasha/Black Widow, since she also chooses Tony’s side in Civil War.

Team Iron Man on The Hulk:

If you’re wondering about the Hulk, he took off in a jet somewhere. Since he's not around, I'll just have to guess whose side Bruce Banner would be on, but without too much thought: it would be Tony. The Hulk has gone unchecked and look at how scared Mark Ruffalo, I mean Bruce Banner is when he first meets Natasha. Also Bruce Banner helped create Ultron as well so the blame is on him as well as on Tony. Although they worked some things out in Age of Ultron, it's still WAY too early to tell if the Black Widow/Hulk ship will still be sailing.

Team Cap on Steve and Natasha

Speaking of Black Widow, her affiliation with #TeamIronMan threatens not just one but two relationships I’ve come to love in the movies. I watched Iron Man 2 again over the weekend and was reminded that when we were introduced to Black Widow in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, she was working on the side of Iron Man. Even so, in the movies since then, we have seen Natasha spend significant time bonding with and gaining the trust of Captain America and, to a lesser extent, Falcon. How will her choosing Tony’s side affect that trust?

The trailers we’ve seen seem to indicate that, even while on #TeamIronMan, she is still attempting to help Cap, by warning him, but it’s hard to believe that their friendship and level of trust can stay the same after Civil War. That said, Natasha and Hawkeye have weathered a similar storm before when they fought while he was under the control of Loki and they were able to continue their long standing friendship in the wake of their fight. Their relationship will again be tested with Hawkeye on #TeamCap but we already know from the trailers that, even in the midst of the battle, the two of them are thinking about their friendship and the ramifications this fight may have on it. I think Clintasha will be fine after these events but they have been close and had each other’s backs for much longer than Steve and Natasha. I worry about how these events will affect that relationship long term.

Team Iron Man on Steve and Natasha:

Captain America and Natasha, as well as Tony and Bucky, are going into the Meghan Trainor category of, “my name is no, my sign is no, this ship is no, you need to let it go.”

Other Ships Rocking the Boat:

Steve and Bucky:

The ship that is more likely to be a love match (than Iron Man and Captain America) is Steve (our Captain) and Bucky. The two men grew up together, went to war together and are now trying to catch up on a tenuous note because for a while Bucky wasn’t Bucky but the Winter Soldier, Captain America’s enemy. If you want a romance novel equivalent, I’d like to choose Megan Erickson and Santino Hassell’s Strong Signal. Featuring one military man, one civilian and a streaming channel, I like to think that the cautiousness that both men approach a relationship captures the tenuousness of Bucky and Captain America’s relationship now albeit in a cyber connection. Image via rebloggy

Steve and Sharon Carter:

Another intriguing relationship I’ve had my eye on and look forward to seeing in Civil War is the burgeoning romance between Steve Rogers and Sharon Carter. It was hinted at during Captain America: Winter Soldier and one of Natasha’s last lines to Steve was that he should give her a call. We know that Sharon Carter is in Civil War and I’d assumed she’d be on #TeamCap but the latest tv spot featuring The Winter Soldier appears to show Sharon fighting against Bucky, on the side of #TeamIronMan. That said, Sharon appears on the side of #TeamCap on the promotional posters so I’m still counting her in the #TeamCap camp and holding out hope the we do get to see this romance progress during Civil War.

Thor and Jane:

Two of the Avengers from the previous movies are not scheduled to be in Captain America: Civil War. Thor and Hulk aren’t supposed to be in the movie but we can probably guess whose side they would be on. Thor was with Captain America and not at all pleased with Tony’s actions during Age of Ultron. Also, he is a God. I feel quite confident that he would have no interest in the governments of the world attempting to regulate his actions. Thor’s romance with Jane Foster does not appear that it will be affected by the actions of Civil War, whether he’s in the movie or not.

The Vision and Scarlet Witch:

The final shipping I want to throw out there because it happens in the comics is The Vision and Scarlet Witch. A logically minded child of Ultron and a woman who can manipulate reality is a very interesting match up and it’s actually canon in the comics. While The Vision and Scarlet Witch’s relationship is tumultuous, the pairing of a logically minded being with a somewhat wicked woman is the actual plot of Kresley Cole’s Kiss of a Demon King. The logical demon warrior Rydstrom and the self-admitted sorceress are definitely an unlikely but extremely interesting pairing.

Clint (Hawkeye) and Natasha:

Natasha and Hawkeye were a clear pairing of favorites from the first Avenger’s movie and spoiler alert, Hawkeye has a family. However, in the trailer you’ll see Black Widow and Hawkeye banter about, “Will we still be friends” after fighting each other. Though an unlikely love match, if the two were to go down that road, they’d be similar to Parker and Ben in Lauren Layne’s Blurred Lines. A story about two best friends who cross over from friendship to something more is definitely the most likely scenario between Natasha and Clint.

Clint, #TeamCap, and Natasha in The Avengers

Black Panther, Spider Man, and More:

As for Black Panther, if you want to start learning about the character grab the comics or the latest Black Panther 1 from Ta-Nehisi Coates, Brian Stelfreeze and Laura Martin, taking the king of Wakanda in a different direction and asking questions about what does it truly mean to be a leader. Spiderman I won’t even go into because 1, Toby Maguire will always be my Peter Parker and 2, I’m mad they didn’t go with Miles Morales as the new Spiderman but are still retconning a series that has been done TWICE.

As with everything else related to Civil War, I’m both apprehensive and excited to see what #TeamCap vs #TeamIronMan means for the established relationships in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. May 6 cannot get here soon enough!

What side are you on?

Civil War: Team Cap vs Team Iron Man



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Pen Singleton is a writer, reader, obsessive fangirl and pop culture addict. You can find her on Twitter @sweetiepiepen or fangirl with her on Tumblr

Sahara Hoshi reviews for Wicked Lil Pixie and is a lifelong reader of romance. Favorite genres include new adult, paranormal romance, contemporary romance and erotica.


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Heather Waters
1. HeatherWaters
Forever devastated by the reveal of Hawkeye's family in the last Avengers. Pretty sure that was the only thing that could have killed that 'ship, so...thanks, Joss.

ANYWAY. Team Cap for me!

Thanks for the posts, guys, this is great fun.
2. Natty
Team Cap!
Also, Steve/Bucky is my personal favourite in this dog fight. Who else on earth could ever understand them the way they understand each other, nevermind all that love and history.
3. nypinta
Just wanted to comment on one thing, the idea that Black Widow is "firmly" Team Ironman. In interviews and some of the clips I've seen, she's not really that firmly on Tony's side. Natasha is a very practicle person and she has an instinctive tendency to place herself well when conflicts arise that benefit her. The actress herself said that siding with Tony was the most efficent way to her own goals. That doesn't really say to me she's choosing based on deeply held beliefs and more that she's still playing the spy game and looking for an advantage in a much longer game.
4. nypinta
Also, seeing as the General that comes to give the Avengers the ultimatum is the same one that chased Bruce Banner all over the world, I'm not so sure that he'd be so quick to join Team Tony. In all things science Tony seems to be able to get Bruce to join in the fun. This is different. The government has done him no favors.
5. Fiona Marsden
I love reading these speculative pieces having already seen the movie. So I will just say. Right, wrong, kind of, maybe not, now that's a solution. It releases any moment now you will know which is which.
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