Oct 22 2013 3:57pm

Veronica Roth’s Allegiant (Divergent #3) SPOILER THREAD!! (MAJOR SPOILERS)

Allegiant Spoiler Thread

Allegiant by Veronica RothThis post on Veronica Roth's Allegiant—Book 3 in the Divergent trilogy, out today—is made up ENTIRELY of SPOILERS and is intended only as a place for fans to gather and discuss the book AFTER reading it, so if you have yet to finish, steer clear of anything after the jump. Go finish the book, then come back. 




***LAST CHANCE: Seriously, leave this post now if you haven’t finished AllegiantThis is a post to discuss the entire book.

Well, kids, this is it! The final book in Veronica Roth's Divergent trilogy (on the bright side, soon we'll have Tris/Four in movies!). Will Allegiant live up to our expectations? (On a personal note: Will it be better or worse than Mockingjay? I found that one very disappointing.) Let's discuss, shall we?!

Now, I just started reading on my commute to work this morning (the sole benefit of an hour-long train ride), so I'm only about 10% through, but I'd love to see this thread bursting with thoughts. I'll be sure to check back as soon as I'm done to join in on the discussion.

For now, here are my admittedly-stream-of-consiousness thoughts:

—Kinda wishing I'd re-read Insurgent before jumping in, as I have a terrible memory and the events of the end of the last book are only slowly coming back to me.

—So glad Tris and Four Tobias have the chance early on to clear the air about all the lying and subterfuge between them in the last book. Did they ever discuss that fear she had about telling him about shooting Will, though? Because that seemed to be her biggest concern, not Four Tobias not trusting her and her capabilities enough. I never did get why she thought he'd blame her for protecting herself, but I guess guilt and (I'd assume) PTSD will do that do you.

—zmakeout sessions ftw! Take all the happiness you can, guys.

—While I'm a bit worried about The Village-esque direction the story's taken, I am enjoying Four Tobias' internal struggles with loving vs. hating his mother and wanting to find out what's in the outside world vs. not wanting to borrow (more) trouble.

...To be continued!

ETA: Continuing in the comments as @redline_ as I read, since I haven't been able to read more than an hour or so at a time yet (sob).

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Heather Waters (redline_)
1. redline_
Tobias rescuing Caleb by making him think he was marching him to his death was both evil and awesome. I'm sad, for some reason, to think that Caleb really is so self-involved as to care most about looking out for #1. Was he just really great at pretending in Abnegation?

Looking forward to seeing what Tris, Tobias, & co. find once they get beyond the city...
Meagan Claire
2. Meagan Claire
So are you done with the book yet? Because I am and I keep waiting for your big revelation post. I'm not sure this is a series I could read over and over again.


I mean, Dumbledore is one thing, but it's like we just switched to Hermione as The Chosen One, and I can't take it.
Meagan Claire
3. bells mom
Didn't see it coming, but felt uneasy until it did. I'm with Meagan Claire. don't know if I could go through it again., I reread all the books before so was just in time for the release. Now Im sad I read the fourth book.
Heather Waters (redline_)
4. redline_
@Meagan Claire @bells mom -- I did finish it and I just felt...underwhelmed, so I'm not sure I'll have a lot more to say, unfortunately.

I'm not even that upset that Tris died, because I can see the appeal of tragic love stories, and it's a dystopian, so Happily Ever Afters are unlikely.

But, man, I just didn't feel very engaged. I didn't understand where Tris was coming from for a lot of the book--like, I knew she'd never actually let Caleb die for the group (if she had she wouldn't have been the character I thought she was), so I found it annoying that we spent so much time with her pretending she would. Does that make any sense? And I just hated the whole genetic pure/genetic damaged thing for many reaons, especially because it all took so much time to explain that it felt like Allegiant was mostly info dump.

Basically what I'm saying is that I totally agree with you guys: not sure I'll be reading this again.
Meagan Claire
5. candace hoffman
I loved Tris's character and her and Tobias's Love story. I so badly wanted things to Work out. I'm heartbroken :( I knew she wouldn't let Caleb do it but when she survived the death serum I thought there was a chance. I don't even want to watch the movies now lol!
Meagan Claire
6. Honey bunny
A Little Late but..
i am so angry. Also I didn't finish the book I only checked the last pages if she was really dead.:D
I mean I understand that it makes sense that she woul rather die herself. And I understand that important people need to die in book to make it more realistic. BUT Uriah died, and so did tris parents and tori and will..
i think she should have survived. I mean i was reading the books and waiting for the time when they can finally be together and have time for each other but it's just not happening and then she dies.
I think enough people died. It's the same as killing katniss. I was sad when prim died but it made sense. It doesn't make sense that tris dies.
Meagan Claire
7. blueline
im really sad that TRIS died at the end :(( i wanted her to suvirve and stay with TOBIAS.
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