Wed
Mar 21 2012 6:35pm

The Hunger Games Roundtable: Peeta’s Pathetic (and Gale’s a Big Damn Hero)

Gale Carries Prim Away

Stop now if you haven’t read all three books in The Hunger Games series. No, seriously. Go no further!

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Look, I’m not here to convince you that Gale should have gotten the girl in Mockingjay, or that Peeta shouldn’t have. Honestly, I am sure Katniss was as happy as it was possible for her to be with Peeta. I think we can all agree she deserved some peace, and it sounds like she got it. I’m baffled, however, by the fact that so many people consider Peeta to be their ideal hero while the word “sociopath” is bandied around with regard to Gale. I mean, what the what?

Despite the headline of this post—which, not gonna lie, is mostly for Chris’s benefit, and because I liked the alliteration—I actually don’t have much to say about Peeta. He’s a nice enough guy, and he obviously has a useful way with words. He’s just not my ideal romance hero, in large part because he’s just so b...zzzz. Sorry. Fell asleep for a minute there. He’s so BORING.

Peeta MellarkI never saw Peeta as an equal to Katniss, and for me that was the dealbreaker. He once gave a starving girl a piece of bread (congrats? you’re not totally heartless?) at GREAT RISK to his own personal safety (oh, right, NOT). She then had to rescue him about a ZILLION times in the series. I’m not exactly swooning here. Overall, Peeta’s being “thoughtful” and “sensitive” struck me as code for “useless in pretty much every situation” and “beta to the extreme.” I mean, his greatest skill in the arena was making himself invisible so that he could avoid all conflict. How do you NOT come out of everything smelling like a daisy when you never DO anything?

Compared to that, OF COURSE Gale is going look like a supervillain. Because he, not content to sit back and let Panem’s totalitarian government continue to starve and torture his people, actually DID something about it. If Peeta and Katniss had had their way, things never would have changed, and that’s the truth; I think it’s pretty clear that their highest priorities were the care and comfort of their immediate loved ones. Gale, on the other hand, thought about the bigger picture always, and as author Jackson Pearce writes in the essay “Gale: Knight, Cowboy, Badass”: “He’s the reason the series has a happy ending” (The Girl Who Was on Fire, p. 218). You’re welcome, Katniss, Peeta, and the rest of FREE Panem.

Liam Hemsworth as GaleI won’t sugarcoat it: Yes, it’s horrifying, absolutely horrifying, that people died as a result of a bomb that, if not the actual one Gale helped develop, was a lot like the one he worked with Beetee on. I have zero doubt that Gale felt the same way; Prim was like a sister to him too, and his goal was to give his fellow citizens their lives back, not take them, so the guilt over these deaths was something he’d carry with him until the day he dies.

The unfortunate reality of the situation, however, is that innocent people DO die in war, and if you really think about it, chances are that a long, drawn-out guerilla war would actually have meant MORE BLOODSHED in the end. What I’m saying is that Gale’s approach to the war actually SAVED LIVES.

So the way I see it, Gale—who sacrificed everything, including the love of his family and his best friend/partner/dream girl, for the happiness of the citizens of Panem—deserves at least as much compassion as the next Hunger Games character, if not more. I’d even argue the guy’s a Big Damn Hero. 

Oh, and Peeta’s still boring and pathetic.

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13 comments
tanyak
1. tanyak
Awesome post! I totally agree.
C Hunter
2. huntece
Killing innocents in the name of saving lives is the path to evil. I really dislike it as an excuse for killing people. Its like saying we bombed that hospital because the evil dictator who killed a lot of people was there.
If it had been Gale who went into the hunger games would he have stopped and sung over a dead little girl giving her death the respect it deserved or would he have just considered it a necessary casualty to surviving. I dont think Gale is a sociopath but the reason I choose Peeta and Katniss over him is because they oppose the idea that death is an excusable part of war.
tanyak
3. anna-lissa
I tend to waffle between the two males (depending on the mood I'm in) because both are so different. But to counter huntece, war is ugly. It's death, destruction, pain, and suffering. Largely due to the way Gale and Katniss have had to fend for their families, they both understand that. Peeta, on the other hand, hasn't had to endure as much, though he hasn't had a luxurious life either. So while death is never excusable, Gale and Kat recognize it's inevitability. Gale accepts it (not embracing it) but Kat is weary of its waste. As for a comparison of the different relationships, Gale and Katniss understand each other and view one another as equals. Peeta and Kat are very different and see themselves as the protector of the other. Ultimately, this is why I do choose Peeta- what woman wouldn't want a man who understands her, doesn't necessarily want to change her, and while he wants to protect her, he knows when to let her be? They complement each other beautifully.
Stephanie Treanor
4. Streanor
HAHAHA I love the JUMP LINE!!!

Are there war zones set up in the H&H bull pen?
Christopher Morgan
5. cmorgan
@Streanor It's gettin' a little hairy, I'm confident we'll pull through though.
Rachel Hyland
6. RachelHyland
@ huntece

Love it! I had never thought about Gale in the Arena before now, but yes, you're right, he would have been in there with a definite kill-or-be-killed mentality, wouldn't he? After all, he was the one who told Katniss that killing people was the same as killing animals; it took me the longest time to come to the conclusion that he wasn't simply trying to bolster her courage with those words, wasn't simply trying to bring her back to him alive, but that he actually believed it. It made me respect him more but love him less, if you know what I mean.

@ redline_

You talk of being a beta as though it were a necessarily bad thing. I think sometimes a beta can actually be the romantic ideal; as anna-lissa said, Peeta and Katniss (an undoubted alpha) complement each other nicely; he fits himself around her needs rather than expecting her to conform to his. I like that.
Christopher Morgan
7. cmorgan
Wait...He DID say that didn't he? How am I the bad guy for calling the boy a sociopath?

Signed - The Gale Troll...
tanyak
8. JUSTIN
I REALLY THINK THE BOK IS GOOD BT I REALL THNK THE MOVIE IS GOIN TOO BE BETTER
tanyak
9. La Mala
i love Peeta . Why is it wrong to have a hero who's not the strongtest alpha male around ? Someone who's actually not a badass but a normal guy , an artist , a person who succedes through words .... Is it really that bad to change the ALPHA RULE? I actually think that Peeta is a breath of fresh air . I mean, c'mon! , was about time that the "LOSER" got the girl!! (And not just any dumb-naive-girl , but a truly BADASS gal like Katniss)
tanyak
10. Star Renikai
@La Mala

I think your perspective is wrong. True, guys don't have to be badass, but it's quite certain that Peeta has enough fans to take over the world. Gale's a lot better though, he knows Katniss better, even looked after her poor family while taking care of his own at the same time. Noble guy, but Peeta hasn't done anything THAT tremedously difficult. Katniss has to save his ass everytime he gets into some stupid thing anyone in the Hunger Games can avoid. And why is it that a Peeta fan is on here, shouldn't you be drooling over him in an annoyingly airheaded manner? Sorry if this offends you, but most fangirls just do that for some reason. This guy totally sucks. Without Katniss, he would be history. No wait, he wouldn't be in history. He'd be stuffed into some box and shipped off to District 12 while being on television about him dying. And it's not true he is a loser, but he's not exactly the best person you'd run into in life. And I haven't seen the movie, I'd doubt it would be better than the book. So, yes, it is high time that the loser-like guy you explain got a girl, but it shouldn't be someone way out of his league. Gale has more experience in everything Katniss does in hunting, and he understands her better. I personally think Peeta is a somewhat stupid blonde because he always gets into SOME kind of trouble. I'm not criticizing him like crazy, but it's my opinion. He's so stupid, he can't even fend for himself. To make it short, Peeta's just plain pathetic. He has to have a GIRL to watch out for him. And I'm not a fan of bread boys for some reason. Gale's quite noble, and even if Prim died, it wasn't his entire fault. I mean, he looked out for her but in the end she died. We just have to forget all the times he protected her, gave her food, and helped her out. Personally, I think Peeta is wimpy. Hey, don't judge me, but he is. He's somewhat Gary-Stu, considering he is 'good-looking' and 'kind' and all that other crap. I think the romance between Peeta and Katniss is unbelievable. Katniss didn't have any feelings for him until he just announced out randomly that he liked Katniss, then she just suddenly likes him too? Pfft, yeah right. To put it simply, does every bone in his body have to be cheesy? Bold guy, but it doesn't make me like him any more. I laughed at the part where he got chased by the tracker jackers, I even yelled out "Go Katniss!" Yeah, I was immature. But he honestly doesn't deserve Katniss. She's so much more mature, so much better at Hunger Games, and just... BETTER. Gale's better too. I think he looks better too. And I am proud to announce I am a Gale Fan. So?
tanyak
11. La Mala
i understand your point and i'm not judging you at all so calm down . This isn't a Twilight war were we have to choose a team , we're not crazy-fan-girls . I was just saying how tired i was of the damsel-in.distress- act that we read in every YA book . I think it's refreshing to read about a WOMAN saving a MAN's life . I don't think that's pathetic . We live in a sexist world so ,yeah , i understand that a lot of people think it's unmanly when a girl it's stronger than a boy , when the GIRL saves the day instead of waiting like a regular BELLA to be rescued.

Also , I actually like the three characthers a lot . I like Gale too , i think the autor made an fantastic job whit this revolution-boy and that is something we don't get to see nowere .

Again , this is not a War , we're just discussing a book ...
tanyak
12. Moss
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHY I DON'T LIKE PEETA!!!
I get that people like Peeta because he's all sweet and stuff but when its in a dystopian trilogy/novel you usually expect the more courageous and rebellious one to be a favorite. This book was an exception for me because I usually like the more sweet guys but Gale for me just one me over in a heartbeat.
tanyak
13. mystique
I kinda hate people who criticize Gale and Peeta in a way to promote the other one. They are very distinctive. Gale is certainly a war hero and I think Katniss loved him in the first book and most of the second book while feeling uncertain about Peeta. I thought Katniss and Gale should have been together. I do like Peeta better than Gale after reading the third book. I think rebellion is in Gale's blood . He knows what it takes to win a war. But I have this annoyance and almost resentment fowards Gale because he is willing to kill innocent people. In the beginning of Mockingjay, he said if he had a button that can wipe out the Capitol, he would do it. There are certainly people like Cinna and Tigris in the Capitol, do they deserve to die? Another example, in District 2, he would be willing to flush the Nut while innocent people were still in there. And remembering while Beetee and Gale was developing new weapons, they were following President Snow's footstep when he hijacked Peeta, first the victim, second, the rescuer. Sympathay, in my opinion, is an extremely important quality of the human race. That's one of the most important reason I thought he and Katniss should not be together. Again, the bomb issue is what actually seperated them. Clearly, Gale and Beetee developed the bomb. A lot of people said it wasn't his fault. But honestly, if any of your family being killed by something you invented, unintentionally, would you feel guilty? I would, at least. But Gale's answer just made me angry. "Does it matter? you'll always be thinking about it" with no sense of guilt. I do think he should be partially responsible for Prim's death because of his excessive hatred toward the Capitol. Other than that, I think Gale is an awesome person, always nice to Katniss, taking care of her family and so on. Then, there's Peeta, He is so unrealistic, I have to say, although I do believe this kind of person exist. He loves Katniss more than his life. He's nice, sweet, blahblah...(save that). But I really admire his ability with words and speech, and more importantly, his love for Katniss. To be honest, in a relationship, or even marriage who would actually sacrifice themselves for their loved ones? And again, hope, sympathy are what Peeta represents. Therefore, symbolically, Katniss and Peeta's marriage portrays that it is hope and sympathy keeps life going, not hatred. Realistically, I think Katniss loves both Gale and Peeta wholeheartedly and she would choose Gale. But personally, I would choose Peeta because he would sacrifice his life for Katniss. I do like Gale, his life in District 12 shows the goodness in his heart, but the war has shown the other side of him(which I think represents the dark side of humanity). Overall, SC wanted us to embrace hope and sympathy instead of hatred. For people who disagree with me, I just want to say that I think this trilogy is about humanity and how SC want the kid to understand the goodness in human heart is what keeps life going.
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