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Aug 20 2011 3:00pm

The Vernacular of J.R. Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood and Fallen Angels Series

Anybody who’s gotten hooked on J.R. Ward’s Black Dagger Brotherhood series has likely rolled their eyes at some of the dialogue that emerges from the Brothers’s mouths:

“You feel me, true?”

“My boy’s got a major glow-on and I’m loving it.”

“So you know I like totally wanted to have sex with you, right?”

“Surprise, surprise cocksucker. Got me some fancy lead.”

“Right now you’re throwing off an aura like your ass is plugged into the wall. So I strongly encourage you to drop the I-am-an-island bullshit and get your sorry excuse for a personality into Rehv’s office before we have a situation. Dig?”

Yes, the Brothers (and the characters in the Fallen Angels series) speak in a language that is their own, but that doesn’t mean, as many interwebbed folks have said, that “The dialogue in this books [sic] felt more like a bad rap movie made in a fantasy ghetto land.” Or that the Brothers are “lily-white guys here playing at being thugs and acting all ghetto.”

To my mind, this is a racist assumption that should be more of a classist or socioeconomic assumption. Although of course racism continues to exist, when we say someone is “ghetto” what we really mean low class—not necessarily defined by race. But most people just make the racial, and not the class jump. While ’ghettos’ exist for people of any color, it is assumed that ghettos are inhabited by black people—and that the BDB is using black slang.

In emailing about this with another BDB fan, I wrote, “our country is not divided by race in terms of social structure (this is aside from the prejudice issue, which of course exists), but in terms of class—lower-class people, regardless of ethnicity, share certain vernacular traits. So the white guy whose pants are low-slung who’s saying the n-word has far less in common with me than you and I do, and we are of different races.”

My friend replied, “And, as an added note, no ’BROTHER’ would say shitkicker. So, apparently, they are half ghetto, half cowboy.”

Yes, the Brothers wear ’shitkickers’; drive Escalades; listen to Ludacris, Eminem, and Jay-Z; drink a specific type of liquor; smoke hand-rolleds; and beat the crap out of their enemies, all while speaking in certain shorthand to each other. That just makes them a brotherhood, small b, and not a Brother-Hood.

What do you think?


 

Megan Frampton is the Community Manager, Romance, for the HeroesandHeartbreakers site. She lives in Brooklyn, NY, with her husband and son, and wishes she could talk like a BDBrother without sounding like an idiot.

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23 comments
Amanda Bonilla
1. Amanda Bonilla
Honestly, the books just wouldn't be the same without the "brother-speak" that makes the series truly unique. It takes a bit of getting used to, but I think it lends to the world-building. I admit when I first read the term "shitkicker" in the first book, I envisioned cowboy boots which totally didn't mesh with my mental image of the characters. But then, after doing a little digging I found a post where Ward had stated that the boots are more like motorcycle boots and not cowboy boots. Also, in regards to the race issue, Ward addressed that by saying the brothers are not white, or black, or anything in between. They are vampires. A race apart from humanity. As an urban fantasy author, I thought that statement spoke volumes. Part of reading our genre is letting go of convention and societal/racial stereotypes. The point of reading/writing this genre (for me at least) is the escape. I want to forget about real life and the little boxes society puts everyone in. I think Ward has done a superpb job of thinking outside that box.
Amanda Bonilla
2. Cassy
Well said ladies!!! Amanda Bonilla-you rock!!!
Amanda Bonilla
3. BoxyFrown
I agree Amanda! I would also like to point out that all of the Brothers don't listen to hip-hop and rap, some of them are true metal heads as well. I find that often we have so many similar traits as people, no matter how far in different corners we are. I think the Brothers represent extremes, and they are supposed to, they are all Super Alphas! I know that fans have a love/hate relationship with JR Ward, but to me, she is the standard, along with Nalini Singh and Sherrylin Kenyon, on world building and storytelling. The language the Brothers use is like a private joke between fans, true?
Carrie Strickler
4. DyslexicSquirrel
I don't know any person in real life who speaks the way the Brothers do. It's a universe completely their own.

To be quite honest, no black person I know would ever talk like that, whether they live in the "ghetto" or not. The language has no basis in reality. The fact that it's even an issue makes me sad. But I guess people will read what they want into anything to fit it into their veiw of the world.
Pamela Webb-Elliott
5. Spaz
Great post! I am with the other commenters, I just see them as being in a universe all their own. Some of their language and music tastes definitely do not lean towards Yuppie-ville, but it is so blended with other pop culture references, it's a hodgepodge for who-the-hell-knows. LOL Just the way I like it! :)
Amanda Bonilla
6. anna-lissa
I live north of Houston and can hear the bass coming from the cars of "lily white boys" all hours of the day. Color ain't got nothing to do with it. Even if one feels the dialogue is forced, hey- these brothers have been around for a long time. They need to roll with the times!
Chelsea Mueller
7. ChelseaMueller
I, too, was surprised to see others suggesting the brothers sounded "ghetto." Great post, Megan.

Also, I think Ashley summed it up best. Trying to force human stereotypes into speculative fiction will only further inhibit the experience.
Amanda Bonilla
8. Grace S
I hate no issues with the way the BDB boys speak. They are often hilarious and ribald and make me laugh out loud.

What *still* makes me twitch so many books in is the ridiculous name spellings of the living Brothers other than Wrath. Rhage? Tohrment? Vishous? Phury? Zsadist? Reeeeeally? Did Darius get blown up not to be reincarnated as John Michael but because he had a normal name and didn't fit in?
Elizabeth Halliday
9. Ibbitts
I love the Brothers. What makes them unique is that they don't conform to plus or minus two percent of average for any given profile. It is not necessary for them to fit into someone else's concept of what vampires should be like. They are as they are. They are exactly as they should be. They are the Brothers.
Amanda Bonilla
10. Siggy
I personally love the brothers they have a little bit of everything in them, they are a mix of all cultures including opera. I have no problem with the way they speak and what they listen to. It's refreshing to read something that is not always geared to one specific culture they have a mesh and their mates are not always blond haired and blue eyed, when I read JR's books it takes me away from all the racial barriers we have to live in with this climate of today.
Amanda Bonilla
11. Lupdilup
I love these guys!!! I read and listened to the books, a few times, I must say. The narrator for these books does a phenomenal job bringing the in your face, urban dialogue, the attitude, and over feeling of these books to life. These are a great read, but they are a fantastic listen. You feel me???
Traci Parrott
12. reject
Maybe it's just me but the term 'shitkicker' painted the mental picture of the engineer boot, not a cowboy boot, but I'm from the leather/biker crowd. That being said, each reader brings their own bias, own imagination an interpretation into the pages of a book. It's up to the author to give us descriptive prose that paints the tone and environment they imagine, but ultimately it's like one of those majic eye pictures; we either see it or we don't. I believe this is why it's so difficult to adapt books to the big screen; what a Hollywood director puts on the screen is their own interpretation of the imaginary painting the writer sculpted with prose. Our own point of view and experiences hitch hike in when we read, it just happens.
Each and every sub-culture has it's own speak. Walk on a heavy industrial construction site and listen to the way the journeymen talk to eachother. Walk into an office building and you'll hear a completely different 'dialect' from what you heard on that construction site. Any one ever noticed the military's love of acronyms? I thought the brother speak offered another layer in the Ward-ens sculpting of the world inside the BDB books. While an author trying to paint an image of a character or a world may be like herding those proverbial cats, I enjoy each attempt. Personally I'm a sucker for the alpha males that are perfectly imperfect. Were the brothers real I'd be their hag (Hang Around Girl).
Amanda Bonilla
13. camraq
Well said ladies! I think it's sad that a racial issue was even brought up into a "paranormal" series. It is part of the reason the books stand out! It's the brothers!!! I don't want them any other way!
Amanda Bonilla
14. scribo2011
I agree with the thread. I have to admit seeing the name Vishous in the blurb made me resist this series for months before I finally gave in and got addicted. I love the fact that the brothers are so varied and, for me at least, I always imagine a slight old world accent underlying the slang. The funny thing is that I never once thought of these guys as ghetto, I saw them as "street" which can be any race. They are hard core paradox's in their leather and daggers surrounded by antique prayer rugs and snacking on Fritz's hors d'oeuvres. I love it!

I'm also a sucker for the wounded, warrior poet so Xadist is my absolute favorite character.

I also have to admit that I love the women in the series too. Bella is a great character and Mary with her unwavering patience, but I personally love Xhex. I hope we see her and JM some more.
Amanda Bonilla
15. KB
I love the brother speak and being in an interracial marriage I never once thought anything racial about how they talk. I actually read some things out of it to my husband and he thought it was hilarious and would throw it at me every once in a while. Keep it up I love it! It wouldn't be the same if there was no brother speak!
Amanda Bonilla
16. KateO
The vernacular is what makes these books so different and so good! I can't wait to read the next one just to hear what they're going to say. JR does a great job with dialogue and keeps the reader engaged. She truly knows how to turn a phrase and make it into something else. I never felt like it was racist or anything like that. I felt it was a language all its own and I love it! My sisters and I even use phrases like "true," "you feel me," and "what's doin'" I find the dialogue and rhetoric refreshing and smart. Keep doing what you're doing JR - we love the brothers...true!!!!
Amanda Bonilla
17. De
I love the "brother-speak" and NEVER once thought it was racist/bad rap. I too thought it was a language that was part of them. Keep up the great work-I too love the brothers..true!!
Patti P
18. Patti P
I agree brother-speak is definately not for everyone...but coming out of those oh so sexy lips of the brotherhood I am fine with that!
Tina Apperson
19. tiwo33
I love it!!!!!!!!! The books are great! As for the "racist" comments from other readers the old phrase..."one bad apple......"comes to mind.
Mara J Brandon
20. marajbrandon
I'm so surprised to hear that anyone would have this issue with how the Brothers speak . Amanda's point about how they are vampires who are neither black, white or something else, is well taken. The way that they communicate always makes me laugh (and I'm not ashamed to say, I have even cried) and imagining them as the larger than life, Super-Alphas is super sexy. Also - I like the way that certain words are spelled and how some have special meanings (see the glossary in the beginning of each book). I think JR is showing us the parallel world the Brothers live-in and that there is some overlap into the human world even though they've benn around a lot longer. Thanks for the post, Megan - it was a good one.
Amanda Bonilla
21. Aries
Phrases like "feel me","true" and "schooled " have always been apart of my vernacular. My family is from Jamaica and those phrases are common to us.While I don't necessarily find anything racist in the language, I do find it a means by which she distinguished herself as an author. I mean the only other place you are going to find phrases like that are in African American fiction.
Amanda Bonilla
22. R U KIDDING ME?
When I first started this reading this series, I found the vernacular mildly annoying and hilarious. it made it hard for me to take the characters seriously. Let me break it down for you folks; these are guys who drive around in escalades, blasting rap music and speaking in a distinctive urban turn all which are undeniably, characteristically and predominantly African-American attributes. I didnt see a black character untill John Mathews book (dont get me started on the 'Moor' handle). I know J R Ward is all about world building but what world exists without minority races??? Are they a dying breed too??? are 'Moors' so few and far in between in J R Ward's fictional universe??? not one 'original' brother or sister???no Asians??? No mixed race characters??? Nothing??? only a couple of muscled-headed guys playing black??? Seriously??? J R Ward's world is all vanilla, nothing exotic or remotely eclectic. I didn't make it a race issue, she did.
Amanda Bonilla
23. Z.C
I'm only on the 4th book, and I love the series. But I do have to agree with Aries to a point. They are a wholly different species; vampires. Yet, so far the vampire characters described have been akin to Caucasians in features and description; they all have light skin, light eyes. (Butch described Wrath in DL as a "white male" when he'd called for help, so that would fit his physical description). Even in a vampire world as vast as this one, I wold expect to see some vampires that aren't strictly European or White American. Dark skinned characters who have a plot in the story? Asians? Latinos? The only Latino I can recall is Jose, and he is hasn't been mentioned again.

I disagree with the brothers "playing black", although they do use a street vernacular that works for them. I just know that I actually live in New York City, and I live in urban parts similar to what JR Ward described. There are bound to be non-White civilians/pedestrians, lessers, or even vampires. ESPECIALLY in New York. It's way too ecclectic.

I enjoy the series, but I just wish she spent more time realizing that where her story is set, it'd be nearly impossible to not have minorities. In any world really.
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