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Mar 23 2011 1:00pm

Your Love Geometry Is Invalid: Triangles In Romance

Love Triangles Are Wrecktangles postcard imageDo love triangles ever work out well? I mean, really? Sure, it’s all delicious angst and tortured looks at the beginning, but eventually, it all ends in either tears, death, or falling in love at first sight with a ridiculously named newborn. (Er, perhaps that last one isn’t so common, but still. IT HAS BEEN KNOWN TO HAPPEN.)

Allow me to share my theories of specific geometry fail:

1) THERE ARE NO LEGS TO STAND ON IN THIS TRIANGLE.

Often a triangle (or a quad or whatever fancy permutation of coupledom you have) isn’t legit because the person at the apex of it—and let’s face it, it’s usually a heroine, there’s very few male-and-two-female triangles I can think of—is not truly torn. Their affections are not divided between two separate but equally important . . . Mr. Pointies.

Prime example: Remember the previous Battlestar Galactica post when I told you my OTP (one true pairing), Starbuck and Apollo, both married other people? Let’s revisit that, shall we? So, our pilots have been dancing around their UST (unresolved sexual tension, for the uninformed) for ages, when the fleet finds a cylon-free planet. SCORE! Our kids get drunk, abandon their significant others and wander off into a field together to get down to it finally, complete with shouted declarations of their love into the night skies.

Starbuck and Apollo in Unfinished BusinessBut the next morning, insecurity and doubt get the better of Starbuck and she runs off and marries Sam, the boy-toy sports star she was frakking around with (but swore she wouldn’t marry the night before). In turn, Apollo proposes to Dee, the pleasant communications officer he was about to move in with (but conveniently forgot about when he put the moves on Kara the night before). The show jumps ahead a year and a half at that point and . . . a lot of other bad stuff happens (imprisoned and brainwashed Kara! depressed and FAT Lee!), until finally our kids reunite with a bloody, brutal boxing match where they finally collapse into each others’ arms in front of the whole fleet AND THEIR SPOUSES. And then they embark upon a brief but intense affair (where supposedly all they ever do is make out, but, uh, let’s say strains credulity is an understatement here).

This storyline, which takes up a chunk of the middle of season 3, is referred to as “the quad of doom” by the show's creators and fans, and the whole thing comes off as pretty contrived, honestly. To me, this isn’t really a triangle (or quad), because Kara, who is clearly the pivot point, isn’t really making a choice at all. She’s not choosing Sam, she’s only choosing not Lee. Further evidenced by the way she completely ignores Sam except for booty calls for the rest of the show—until he gets gravely injured near the finale. (Long story, Kara has Dead Guy Issues™.) So, it’s hard to even call this a real triangle. And as for the quad part of it, Lee seems to have even less interest in his spouse than Kara does in hers, until he almost loses his wedding ring and collapses in a puddle of guilty emo sobbing and swears to reform. (Yeah, Lee has his own subscription.)

But BSG is just one example; you see this uneven balance of affection all the time in fiction. I mean, did anyone really think shirt-deficient Jacob ever stood a chance against that twee sparklepire Edward?

Brussel Sprouts2) THE BRUSSELS SPROUT DEFENSE™ IS WEAKSAUCE. Occasionally in discussions of love geometry, when someone is trying to futilely sway you to their side of the ship wars, they will suggest that one of the possible triangle pairings is “a healthier relationship” than the other. To which I say: please keep your Weight Watchers point-counting out of my fiction. Let’s face it: when it comes to drama, healthy relationships are usually pretty boring relationships. Great stories thrive on conflict. This is one that my OTP gets charged with pretty often too. That Dee and Sam, because they are less volatile types and are willing to pretty much turn the other cheek—despite being humiliated and cuckolded for everyone to see—are the more stable partners for Lee and Kara. So, sure, there’s no punching, but there’s also no passion. And who wants that? Plus, being a doormat and/or an enabler isn’t really all that “healthy,” now is it? A true “healthy” relationship would make the protagonist want to be a better person, wouldn’t it?

There’s also an unfortunate side-shoot of this example where sometimes the storyteller sets up one of the love interests to be such a saintly martyr—reinforced by other characters’ dialogue or the protagonist’s own internal monologuing—where it becomes a question not of love but of who “deserves” to win the protagonist’s heart. Which is always a squicky concept because it equates your protagonist as a trophy to be won if our sainted hero just accumulates enough Weight Watchers good karma points.

I mean, Suzanne Collins, I loved The Hunger Games and I’mma let you finish and all, but if you had Haymitch tell the incredibly awesome and kickass Katniss—or worse, Katniss tell herself—one more time that she could never ever be good enough to be worthy of pining, wimpy Peeta’s love . . . Cripes. (Also, you din’t need to suddenly be playing Gale for a villain that way in Mockingjay, dawg. You on notice.)

One for the Money by Janet Evanovich3) IF YOUR NAME’S NOT EGGO, NOBODY LIKES A WAFFLER.

Often, with really popular and long-running series, the heroine dithers around endlessly about her choice. This is great for merchandising as fans take up campaigns for their favorites (those Team-so-and-so shirts just fly off the shelves!), but can get seriously stale for the audience. How many times are you gonna have to hear the pros and cons of each potential suitor? How much whiplash will you get as the heroine snaps back and forth between them like a rubber band?

Playing it with uncertainty usually works okay when the heroine’s a teenager because figuring out who you are and what you want in life is a staple of the coming-of-age tale. But when it’s an adult woman at the center of the triangle? It gets into some uncomfortable territory. Because Stephanie Plum not being able to decide between Joe Morelli and Ranger—SEVENTEEN BOOKS LATER—just makes her seem sort of selfish and immature, right? Being an adult means making choices and hard decisions. Stranding your heroine in a no-man’s land of wishy-washy because she doesn’t know her own mind just makes her look foolish—and may make people tire of your series.

So how do you feel about love triangles? Which ones do you adore—or hate? Has anyone gotten this trope right?  

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Tara Gelsomino is a reader, writer, pop culture junkie, and internet addict. You can tweet her at @taragel.

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26 comments
Regina Thorne
1. reginathorn
I think I'm sort of conditioned to love love triangles, actually, because of my early love for the legends of King Arthur. I've read or watched nearly every permutation of Arthur-Lancelot-Guinevere (including Guy Gavriel Kay's reworking in fantasy) and I can't seem to get enough of it. Similarly, there's King Mark-Tristan-Isolde and from Irish mythology, Fionn-Grainne-Diarmuid (although Fionn doesn't love Grainne so much as feel insulted that she doesn't love him.)

As to your main example, I have to say that I didn't mind the quadrangle on BSG as an idea (although I think Kara and Lee had enough internal conflicts to not require any outside agent to keep them apart). Part of my problem with the whole thing was that they kept cutting out pieces of the Dee/Lee story to the point where it was like Swiss cheese, more holes than substance. So I had to do way too much of my own imagining to make that relationship work at all other than as a plot device.

So ... I've long-windedly said that if a love triangle is well-written I'm happy to take my geometry class and if it's not ... well, then I don't like it so much.
Laura K. Curtis
2. LauraKCurtis
I hate them ALL. Mostly because of the waffling issue. I also hate when an author sets up one love affair that you think is the OTP for a few books, then introduces someone else for some reason that seems to me to be nothing more than a way to keep things "interesting." BLECH. Tends to make me lose respect for the characters.

And then, there's the writer who KILLED OFF half of the OTP she'd been setting up for something like 8 books. Granted, this was mystery, not romance, but I will never pick up one of her books again. Ever. She did on the last page in the penultimate freaking PARAGRAPH, so there was no closure for readers. Bad enough if she'd done it at the beginning and readers had had to go through recovery with the protag, but to do it at the end was a cheap shot.

And then there are the multiple-partner romances. Sorry. Doesn't work for me, either. I just don't see it. Two brothers "sharing" a woman? Nope. Don't care how close you and your brother are, there's too much sibling rivalry there. Nothing anyone can write is going to make me believe that that relationship will work long term. (Even short term strains credulity -- most of the "open" or "threesome" relationships I've seen in my life have short spans. Perhaps short span after short span after short span, leading to a person being in threesomes for years, but not the *same* threesome and not everyone is equally happy with the relationship.)
Donna Cummings
3. Donna Cummings
My reason for not liking romance triangles is this: I always feel BAD for the one who isn't chosen. LOL If it's a genuine triangle, both of the candidates have to be worthy contenders, so when one of them is awarded second-place, runner-up status. . .well, it makes me a little sad.

Not to mention it's entirely unfair for one heroine to have more than her fair share of potential heroes. LOL
Taragel
4. Taragel
@reginathorn So you're saying there were too many circles in that quad? Hee.
Curious: Which of the triangles you mentioned do you think have a satisfying ending? Any?
Taragel
5. Taragel
@laurakcurtis Ah! I know the mystery author you speak of. ;) That was very surprising. I remember she posted a letter on her blog to address all her very upset fans saying it was just the way she had to tell the story. (Although that story wasn't a triangle.) ...Also, are there many multiple-partner romances out there? Do we count Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake in that? I haven't read those, but have heard there are multiples upon multiples... ;)

@Donna Cummings Ha, yes, the hidden side of triangle!fail: the injustice of it all! She should share with those less fortunate. But yes, it's hard not to feel badly for the Second Banana if the triangle is set up in a way that makes both interests valid/endearing.
Taragel
6. bungluna
Coincidentaly, I just finished reading the first in a new-to-me UF series, which I enjoyed except for the obligatory set-up of another freaking love triangle. I'm very tired of them. I'm ready for some one-night stands or serial monogamy or anything other than two guys and a dithering girl.
Regina Thorne
7. reginathorn

Curious: Which of the triangles you mentioned do you think have a satisfying ending? Any?

They all have satisfying endings (for me); they're just all tragic (Arthur dies, Lance & Gwen survive but feel guilty; Tristan and Isolde die, Mark feels guilty; Diarmuid and Grainne survive for a while and are happy together until Fionn gets Diarmuid killed, then he feels guilty, and eventually Grainne marries him :D) OK, maybe the last one isn't so satisfying but I always liked her practicality.

Taragel
8. wrytersblock
I love math but geometry was always my weakest subject. That said, my geometry teacher was often fond of telling us that the most stable structure was a triangle, but I doubt he had threesomes/love triangles in mind (gosh I hope not).

Right at this moment I can only think of one triangle that I've read about that had a "satisfying" ending for me, and even it had moments where it drove me nuts. In L. J. Smith's 'The Secret Circle" trilogy, Cassie falls for Adam, who comes to realize that he's fallen for Cassie. Normally this would be a YAY moment, but Adam has been dating Diana (who happens to be Cassie's best friend) since they were little. Cassie, being the new girl in town, didn't know this, and feels a massive amount of guilt for loving the boy her pure-as-driven-snow bff loves. Cue angst, both of them vowing to never let on to anyone (esp. Diana) that they love one another, Cassie's occasional jealousy and envy and negative feelings, gasp, toward her bff, Cassie's attempt to move on...and then the resolution.

This is one of my favorite YA books (sentimental reasons, I suspect, since I read it as a teen) and the resolution of the plot and finally of the triangle make me happy enough...but. There are moments that I really hate it. Like when Cassie tries to move on and dates Nick, but breaks up with him because she loves Adam. FOOL. Nick was awesome. :(

(Interestingly, I recently discovered that tis triangle is based on the Arthur-Lancelot-Guinevere triangle, only with the genders reversed.)

I've read a few other stories that featured love triangles, and mostly I just don't like them. It seems like it can't be resolved without making the one not chosen somehow magically a jerk, in which case I wonder why they were ever a choice to begin with.
Taragel
9. Shayna
too busy to comment on BSG atm so...

Ever read the Body Movers series? 7 books and our plucky heroine still can't decide between 3(!) guys. By the end of all that I want to punch her in the face repeatedly and I'm pretty sure that's not the idea.
Taragel
10. Taragel
@bungluna I know! Don't they seem inescapable lately? I don't remember there being quite so many in years past...

@reginathorn I'm intrigued... Do you think you find them satisfying because you don't really care who "wins"? I'm very much a side-picker. A onetrack kind of girl. ;) I like to bet on my horse early and often, so it's so disappointing I think to see them heartbroken or worse, dead!

@wrytersblock Did you know they're filming a TV pilot based on The Secret Circle for the CW network right now? It stars Britt Robertson as Cassie (from Life Unexpected) and I think Thomas Dekker (from Terminator:SCC) is playing Adam maybe? Not sure about Diana. At least that's a nice change from two guys-one girl! I hate when someone is suddenly made into a jerk! That's the worst.
Taragel
11. Taragel
@Shayna I haven't read those! Checking out Amazon...they seem a little bit similar to the Stephanie Plum novels. I think with those long-running series (Evanovich, Hamilton's Anita Blake, even Charlaine Harris' Sookie Stackhouse) it becomes a thing where all the men who come into the series have to fall for the heroine sometimes. And then it feels a bit Mary Sue/wish-fulfillment sorta.
Clare Toohey
12. clare2e
NO- Did not buy the shirt-deficient versus the sparklepire for one, eensy second.

I do kind of hate love trangles, unless the odd wheel is a heinous addiction, in which case, seeing that one get booted feels great. Mostly, I hate that someone I'm invested in is destined to lose or EVERYBODY DIES.
Taragel
13. Daybreak
I love triangles and polygons. I grew up watching soap operas and well, at a certain point soap writers thought it was just grand to add another person to the mix. Soaps are all about teasing you to watch a slow-moving drama day after day. Waffling is essential. Dragging it out is kind of essential. When my characters weren't on or were happy, I didn't watch much. (Happy soap couples are rarely on-screen unless something catastrophic is about to happen.)

If the heroine chose easily, well, it might be boring. Not always. With OTPs, writers create thousands of obstacles. The love triangle is just another one. Just like being kidnapped or having an incurable illness or having amnesia or something.

I've rarely seen a love triangle work out well in canon. Sometimes someone dies, as in Wuthering Heights. I was satisfied with the ending of Gone With the Wind, though it ended on a cliffhanger. Scarlett gets neither man after waffling for twelve years. And she kind of reaped what she sowed there. I loved her and Rhett loved her but seriously.

I once read a well-written fanfic story that had an OT3 of mine work out well. That was Harry, Ron and Hermione. It had them waiting until their children got older for them to finally be together. In my mind the three of them lived happily ever after. I was quite, quite satisfied with this and I in my mind I like the idea of the middle-aged trio living happily together. That really works for me.

It's hard to have a good triangle work out. Because I always have a pairing I prefer in there. One of the points of the triangle is clearly better for the person in the middle, just fans disagree which one. :-) If I truly think they are both equal, well, then how could I choose?

Why not polyamory? Honestly, I do think that Zak/Kara/Lee or Sam/Kara/Lee would have been interesting indeed. Maybe soaps taught me to want that heroine to have her cake and eat it too. :-)
Regina Thorne
14. reginathorn
Do you think you find them satisfying because you don't really care who "wins"? I'm very much a side-picker. A onetrack kind of girl. ;) I like to bet on my horse early and often, so it's so disappointing I think to see them heartbroken or worse, dead!



That's a good question! No, I pick sides (certainly with at least two of your examples, BSG and The Hunger Games).

But with legends and mythology, people retell them so many times and so many different ways that I don't always necessarily pick the same character every time. Sometimes I love Arthur the most, for example, and sometimes Lancelot and almost always Guinevere. I just don't mind a tragic ending, I guess, as long as the other characters are proportionately affected by the tragedy and don't go off all "lalala, person x is dead we can be happy now."

@Daybreak I think Zak/Kara/Lee might have been weird given that Lee and Zak are brothers :D
Taragel
15. Taragel
@clare2e I was team Jacob but never thought he had a shot. I do have to give Meyers some, uh, "creativity points" for her ending I suppose. Heh.

@daybreak Re: Scarlett...was she really a waffler? She was pretty fixated on Ashley for most of those years, even though she was with Rhett. I thought she only realized she wanted/loved him after it was too late. Anyway, I do love a slow build to relationships but there's a point when it crosses that line into Eggo territory and then I get fed up/lose interest. I'm way too jealous/competitive of a person myself to ever be able to tolerate polyamory, and even in fictional relationships I tend to look for signs that the center of triad likes one better/more/deeper than the other. (W/r/t Kara/Lee specifically? I think it's horrendously unfair for Lee to have to share her. Heh.)
Taragel
16. Taragel
@reginathorn
With legends and mythology, people retell them so many times and so many different ways that I don't always necessarily pick the same character every time.

Oh that's a really interesting point! Now I want to read something mythic or epic like that to see if I would choose the same "winner" every time! Hey, that's one solution too I suppose. Happy endings for everybody, just different books, tv, movies. :)
Evangeline Holland
17. EvangelineHolland
I like love triangles in film and TV, but only because I found much amusement as a teenager when watching soap operas like Passions, with their incredibly melodramatic and roller-coaster relationships. I'm not really a fan of them in fiction outside of gothic romances and mysteries because rarely do romance authors give all sides of the triangle a POV to increase the tension. Plus, I find it annoying that when the triangle is man-woman-man, it's a bad boy versus a decent guy, but when it's woman-man-woman, the other woman is written as a raging bitch and is likely to be blindingly beautiful (EEVIL) compared to the plain, more deserving, mousy heroine.
Taragel
18. Jennifer R
There is no point in picking a Team Ranger vs. Team Morelli in the Plum series, because the author intends never to pick and to milk the switching-off for eternity and Stephanie never grows up. It gets boring and old and I don't care. Realistically Steph and Morelli (both of whom feel like they "should" get married, but don't actually want to get married) should keep on as they do and Steph takes an occasional bite of Ranger on the side once in a while (he refuses to even date her regularly), so... whatever, I don't care.

Another facet of triangles: triangles where you no longer care or dislike both choices. Jack/Kate/Sawyer on Lost, big time. Most of the time on that show I barely would pick Sawyer over Jack because they were both dicks, but at least Sawyer knew he was one, but I didn't even like Kate much. Kind of funny how that one ended.

Optimally speaking, you should like both sides of a triangle, or it shouldn't be blatantly Edward/Jacob obvious as to who's going to win. (The Gardella Vampire Chronicles is another one where it's very clear who's going to win in five books. Too bad I'm the only one who doesn't like dick heroes.)

I can think of two nicely resolved love triangles: the Bobbie Faye books (she picks the guy who's best suited to deal with her crazy, the other guy loved her but was clearly giving himself ulcers), and the Mercy Thompson books because she eventually picked and there was a minimum of drama.
Taragel
19. Daybreak
@ Reginathorn Is Zak/Kara/Lee weird because they are brothers? I did think well, they'll always have that rivalry. But who knows? I'm sure that people have married sisters in the world. Maybe not simultaneously but it happens. I like to think in the BSG-verse anything could happen. Actually, the show Caprica did depict group marriages. I still think it would be interesting if Kara didn't have to choose between the men she loved. Would she be happy? Could they be a family? Just one interesting idea to me. Primarly I wanted her to be with Lee. That's just me. But she didn't seem to want to always choose. Maybe polyamory would have suited her.

@Taragel Scarlett had three husbands while she professed to love Ashley. She supposedly had put aside her feelings for Ashley but she didn't really. She harboured a thing for him and then married Rhett. Then after she realizes that she didn't really love Ashley she turned to Rhett who was fed up at that point. I remember lines from Rhett talking about "catching her between husbands" and wanting a night where "there weren't three of them in his bed," if I recall correctly. I think to Rhett, she was a waffler. I think he wanted her to choose him unequivocably. For me as a reader and a viewer, I didn't mind it at all. :-) I like triangles. I would have waited patiently through more books and more movies to see how it all would have turned out.

As for me personally, no, I guess I'm not like Kara or Scarlett. I want to decisively choose and be chosen. But I don't mind it in fiction. Scarlett and Kara were larger than life to me in the middle of wars and passionate love affairs. Their lives were epic. :-)

Lee shouldn't have to share her but he was a bit of a waffler too. He should have demanded she make a choice and once she did he should have moved on if it wasn't him. Of course he couldn't, the poor guy because he loved her so much. But he also had his cake and ate it too with Dee. Dee shouldn't have had to share him, either. Even if she chose it, that was pretty unfair too.
Taragel
20. Taragel
@Evangeline I agree, it's too easy to make one of the women a bitch when it's two women and one man. (Dare we blame the Baroness from the Sound of Music? Hee.)

@Jennifer R I had to give up on the Plum books after about seven or eight? They were always hilarious but Stephanie never grew at all. I got tired of it. They're sitcom equivalent and I prefer dramas! Never had stakes in Jack/Kate/Sawyer either because I was neutral onthem too.

@DB Oh that's right she had those other two husbands who were short-lived I think? Frank...and....Dick? Howard? LOL. Probably those are not right. I haven't read the book since I was in 8th grade! I should reread one day... Poor Dee, she just picked a losing horse there. I don't want her to share him either. I want her to get a divorce and find a guy who would love her best!
S Tieh
21. infinitieh
I'm waffling about the love triangle trope; I sort of enjoy reading stories with love triangles/quadrangles/rhombi but since they never end as I hope they will, I don't like them that much either (at least Jacob is a fellow teenager, not almost 100 years old!). Of course, sometimes it's just a relief for the heroine to pick one instead of waffling for too long.
Taragel
22. Taragel
@infinitieh I really am not sure how you can end one in a totally satisfying way for all parties. I guess you really can't, but I agree that it is a relief when there's a vivid choice made!
Taragel
23. ReaderCarolyn
There are a few mystery series ("cozies") I read that have triangles going on. I'm okay with it in one of those since she dated each exclusively when the other relationship failed, even though it was a she-had-feelings-for-both kind of thing. The other is starting to get ridiculous with both having issued proposals. When you get to the point where 2 people are proposing to you, make a damn decision already. I definitely think it's all in how it's handled, a writer's skill. I refused to read any more books in one series simply because when she did choose, I felt like it was just poorly done. It was one of those cliffhanger endings, and then, the reasoning (or lack thereof) I found in the next book did not satisfy me. I'll go along with it, but only so far. With Stephanie Plum, I've not yet stopped reading them, but I don't eagerly wait for them anymore.
Laura K. Curtis
24. LauraKCurtis
@Taragel
I found the letter completely unsatisfying. As I said, I could have lived with it had she chosen to just move that paragraph to the beginning of the next book about her heroine and then had allowed readers to go through the mourning period. It wasn't the death that irked me (if that's what she thought had to happen for arc, I disagree but understand), but the way it was handled.

And yup, there's a whole subgenre of romance (though it's all erotic romance, I think) that is multiple-partner.
Taragel
25. Taragel
@ReaderCarolyn It's definitely a tricky line to walk. Timing is important....don't want to drag it on too long. I've sure lost interest before because of that.

@LauraKCurtis It was very very abrupt. I think by the time I read the book I knew it was coming (heard so much buzz about it that I couldn't help but spoil myself and read her letter) and yet it still managed to shock me in how little time it took up in the book! Yeah, I think it would have had a lot different impact if it had been at the start of the next book.
Virginia Campbell
26. VirginiaCampbell
I waited for Wyatt Clark's “HEA” in "A Light at Winter's End" by Julia London with much anticipation. Although I am not a great fan of triangle story lines, I was completely captivated by the first book, “A Summer of Two Wishes”, where Wyatt was the “odd man out”. He really grew as a person as his misery grew, and you actually ached for him as a person. Great characters, great storytelling–Julia London does it so well : ) I loved “A Light at Winter’s End”, and now thatWyatt feels better, then I feel better, too ; )
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